Picture of flocking installed on 6" OTA. Note that a white dot is opposite the focuser to help determine the center of the focuser and the screws holding the focuser have not yet been painted flat black.
In addition to the contact cement shown above, DAP now sells in quarts and gallons, a low odor less flammable version that works quite well too.
27" wide, $1 /lineal foot +$6 shipping (Select the number of units (feet) you want)
6"x6" patch for opposite your focuser ($1 shipped)
9"x12 patch for larger scopes $2 (shipped)
eyepiece tubes and any other surface that to eliminate reflections.
Unlike other black velvet available this material is not adhesive backed. One can spread the adhesive, put the flocking on it and move it into
the exact desired position before it dries. (you should test the adhesive you use with the tube material before doing the main job). I have
personally had trouble with the peel off backing stickinq to the wrong spot while I attempt to move them into place.
Excellent Light absorber
- The cost is 1/5 the cost of the adhesive backed
material ($1.00/lineal foot-27 inches wide).
- You choose the adhesive to match your tube.
- Do it in more than 1 step if you wish. Glue an
edge, let it dry, then work your way around the tube to ensure you get
it right. I prefer to use 3 strips 1/3 the circumference and allow each
to dry.
- Moving it before the glue dries allows you to get the seams very close.
- Choose the adhesive that you are comfortable
using.
- It is REALLY black!
(left) 9"x12" peel off back self adhesive sheet $1.25/sheet +$1 shipping
It is 2mm thick.
8 cm fan suspended by elastic cables behind an 8" mirror cell.
Below: I like my batteries on the outside as they are easy to change without disturbing the mirror area. Where you mount them is up to you.
I run my elastic up from the fan out and around 1/4 of the tube and back in to suspend the fan (twice to provide tension to all 4 corners. The black elastic can be seen in the photo below on the outside of the tube, and in the photo below and to the left inside. It is threaded through the screwholes in the fan and a knot tied to hold it there. 6 cm fans are also available in the kit by request. (good for 6" and 8" scopes)
It contains:
12 volt 80 mm fan (rated at 37 cu ft/min; about 18 cu ft/min at 6 volts). These should be good for 8 and 10" telescopes. I also have a few 60 mm fans good for 6" telescopes, just ask. I have access to larger fans for larger scopes. Tell me what you need.
5 feet of elastic rope (for suspending the fan behind the mirror)
double stick pad for mounting battery pack (mount to tube outside or inside)
Your choice of:
--------4 AA battery pack (6 volt)(batteries not included) (soldering will be needed)
SPST toggle switch (soldering will be needed). This is what I use and it seems quite good at cooling my mirrors.
or
--------9 volt battery clip and mounting bracket (battery not included). Fan will spin faster with more air flow (~27 cfm). Battery will need to be replaced more often. (soldering will be needed).
Pictures of how I set mine up are shown. I like the batteries on the outside as they are easy to change. They could be mounted inside the tube if you have room and wish to hide them. The cost of the kit is $10 plus $3 US shipping. ($13).
8 cm on a side fan with 4 AA battery Pack
8 cm on a side fan with 9 volt connector and holder.
9 volt battery & switch mounted on outside of tube.
8 cm fan mounted on Orion 10" Intelliscope. Elastic cords hold the fan in place and decouple any vibration from the fan. (The fans are quite smooth running, but this is recommended.
This paint is a fine grain pigment enamel, meaning that it will flow smoothly to give your cameras a beautiful finish. In a 1 fluid ounce bottle. This can be used for retouching cameras, touching up bolts or other spots inside your OTA that need a non-reflective paint.
In my use I have found that this gives a very flat finish in one coat on paper/cardboard etc. A slightly glossy effect is seen on a very shiny bolt that is painted. If the bolt is roughed up a little with fine sandpaper first, that effect goes away..
The one ounce bottle is an convenient way to have a bit of paint around when you need it for touch up. Warning: this is flammable when applied.
$5 + $2 shipping.
For metal and non porous (waxed sonotube), I find that Weldwood Contact cement works well for me, and remains flexible over time.
Be sure to do your own testing on whatever tube material you are using to be sure that this will work well for you. DCS cannot be responsible
for the decisions you make. Weldwood Contact cement is available at Ace Hardware for about $4 for a 3 oz bottle or less than $10 for a 32 oz
can. I usually keep a bottle with brush on hand, and refill from a can.
BE WARNED: this stuff is flammable and noxious. Use with good ventilation and be able to give it a few hours to dry some place where
you don't have to smell it. It has toluene in it along with other solvents that can seriously hurt you.
So It depends on what the tube is made of. It the tube is paper or cardboard(porous like the flocking) I would recommend doing a small
test gluing to be sure:
1) it sticks well
2) the glue can be applied thinly enough so it doesn't come through the flocking in gobs and dry that way,
3) your choice stands up to dew. I take the glued test and apply moisture to it (say with a cool humidier or little spritzer bottle) to see
how it reacts to dew.
I have put sample strips glued with Elmer's and Weldwood into a closed container with a tray of water and they held up for weeks in the
high humidity. Elmer's white glue did not remain flexible after drying, but it did hold quite well in all the tests.
The way I find it easiest to install the flocking follows. This is by no means the only possible or best possible way, just the way I usually use.
First I measure the length and diameter of the tube to be done. I then measure how far up the tube the front surface of the main mirror is.
(I calculate things so that the flocking extends past this point but not to where the screws hold the mirror in place. The effective tube length is therefore the total tube length - the part I don't cover.
I then calculate the inside circumference of the tube (2*pi*radius or pi * diameter) I will cut pieces 27" long and one-third the
circumference wide. If the effective tube length is less than 54", I will then cut 3 more and shorten them to the effective tube length - 27".
If more than 54", a 3rd set needs to be cut. Remove mirrors, spider, focuser, etc for their protection. It may be worthwhile to spray paint the inside of the tube flat black at this point to cover any minor seams that the flocking will miss. (It may already be black if you are upgrading a tube)
I then put the glue on the backing for a single strip and install it in the tube starting at the front end. Lay the strip in the tube and roll it out with a piece of cardboard tubing or pvc pipe about 30" long. Once it appears well stuck, allow it to remain on the bottom of the tube while it dries. Rotate the tube 1/3 of a rotation and do the next strip. Don't worry about minor seam gaps. Once all the flocking is installed the light won't make it far enough down the tube to see it anyway. If you have a major gap, cut a piece of flocking to fill it and glue it on to cover. By doing this in thirds, gravity is always your friend, helping to hold the flocking in place while it dries. Let each section dry before moving on. Using the contact cement above I have been able to dislodge a strip and move it once when I had misplaced it. A second time can be difficult. If you find that edges stick up because you didn get glue to the edge, you have the opportunity to put a littlce contact cement there after the section dries, but before you put the next section on. Edges should be checked for adhesion at that point. The bottle with brush inside is convenient to touch up edges.